Swami Vivekananda Fruit-Trees Expansion Mission for environment, peace, health by waghhm

The theme is open to all countries, regions, populations, to adopt and implement. Naming the theme in USA could be "Lincoln, King, Vivekananda Fruit-Trees Expansion Mission"; in different countries the names of great contributors, saints, social reformers could be added to name of Swami Vivekananda as a tribute to those noble souls.

The theme is open to all countries, regions, populations, to adopt and implement. Naming the theme in USA could be "Lincoln, King, Vivekananda Fruit-Trees Expansion Mission"; in different countries the names of great contributors, saints, social reformers could be added to name of Swami Vivekananda as a tribute to those noble souls.

Dear jan-k, Thanks for your comments. i feel the collection of seeds on a mass scale & spreading would be helpful. We all eat fruits and let the seeds decay. Mother earth would take better care & would let the robust of the seeds grow. More flesh & smaller size of seed would be one criteria for good seed from human point of view. Let the nature protect the saplings so that only hardy, sturdy plants would grow without human support. Earth has a vast area, involvement of government agencies is needed as in many regions Governments are the largest owners of lands. Private owners have different perspectives about the land they own. Actually we all inherit this earth during our life and pass on to the Genext. The names of great leaders, social reformers, sages are very inspiring in initiating and sustaining such activities and a tribute to those noble souls, integrating different communities would be easier with inspiration from these three, hence my suggestion. Mankind presently is 'the prisoner of its own history' & struggling; it should act to create history afresh, here 'Swami Vivekananda Fruits-Trees Expansion Mission' shall be helpful.

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Hi! I am supporting this project. In my experience trees sprouted from seeds of commercially grown fruit tend to take a very long time to fruit themselves (in some cases never). Growers get around this by grafting already producing trees into the seedlings. Perhaps this proposal may be enhanced by promoting further practical education on how to graft and tend to trees to ensure they fruit to their fullest! This proposal, if adopted globally, can have significant effect to reduce climate change and also to help put food on people's tables! Have you seen the work the folks at https://www.opentreemap.org have been doing? All the best.

My personal observations support me here. There are many types of fruit trees in India which grow without any cultivational efforts on part of humans. Even those fruit trees which are grown from seeds of commercially produced fruits do in the end bear fruits in ample amounts. A delay of a few years in the fruit yielding may adversely affect for profit horticulture but would not have any adverse impact when primary thrust is not the fruit-production-for-profit. As and when the fruits would appear, (and they would eventually do so) fruits could be utilized for diverse purposes. Sincere Regards.

I gather that there is water scarcity in California & people have been advised to get sturdy variety of lawn that wouldn't require watering! Fruit bearint trees that show such a desirable characeristics are likely to emerge out of This Mission.

"Relative absence of the social sciences in the climate debate is driven by specific structural and institutional controls that channel research work away from empirical relevance."

Respected Sir, I am very thankful to you for your comments. I would like to be specific about the nature & type of seeds to be planted. The seasonality of many fruits & differential distribution of fruits grown & eaten in different regions precludes naming a few fruits. Before the emergence of centralized, organized production of grain seeds, the farmers, since prehistorical periods, used to keep with them the best of their grains as seeds for future use. This bit of knowledge combined with Professor Amartya Sen's suggestion to put to use the wasted fruit seeds prompted me to think. Your suggestion that each school to have a committee of teachers & students who will continually sensitize the new entrants is very useful. School premises could be starting point, but would simply be very inadequate to accomodate all seeds collected by the school's students over one year. Indeed the reproductive redundancies for plants demand a wider spread of seeds. Cities may not be able to accomodate all fruit-seeds its students may collect during one year. Seeds will have to be moved to countryside for spreading on available land. Here the role of government agencies for horticulture, agriculture, forestry revenue departments becomes prominant. Horticulturists helping guiding the students & their teachers is most welcome. Thanking you once again, Sincere Regards.

"The Whole is More than the Sum of its Parts."

I am not very familiar with agriculture in India, particularly fruit production, but most fruit in the United States is hybridized. Therefore, if you can even get the seeds to grow, they will not produce the same quality or quantity of fruit as that from whence they came. In addition, since nearly all of our trees are grafted onto more resilient root stock, it is unlikely many of these seeds would even survive long enough to fruit. This might be viable in some places, but not very in North America or Western Europe.

peterbane May. 17, 2015 06:37 AM IST Judges 4 | share An excellent suggestion with many benefits. There may be limitations to reproducing some tropical and many temperate species by seeds for different reasons. Some tropical species, while they do reproduce from seed, may not do so beyond a few weeks, and the seeds may need to be kept moist during that interval to remain viable. Technical support in these matters would be important for success. Temperate species such as apple and pear are readily reproduced from seed, but often yield insipid fruit of low value to humans unless grafted with preferred varieties. Stone fruits (plum, peach, cherry, apricot, almond) are more self-fertile and therefore yield offspring more like the parents, but there is considerable genetic drift over time through sexual reproduction. Since our cultivated species represent several thousand years of selection, that drift is likely not going to be in the direction of making horticulture easier, even if it helps the crop genomes adapt to changing conditions. If this suggestion were combined with improved horticultural education for the school children of the sort that led to proficiency in grafting, pruning, nursery care of seedlings and small trees, and appropriate interplanting, the expansion of tree crops to semi-cultivated areas could have a profound and positive impact. A parallel focus on interplanting fruits and nuts with nitrogen-fixing species should be developed. These support and fertility plants are critical to soil improvement and can provide excellent fodder for animals as well as green manures and mulches. waghhm May. 17, 2015 12:37 PM IST Member 5 | share Respected Professor, I am very thankful to you for your very encouraging & kind comments. I had already included some of your suggestions. I wrote, " Only minimum suggested, people most welcome to do more, like growing saplings, planting, grafting( special method followed by horticulturists, not needed initially, difficult to implement in a mass program at least initially), pruning etc. but distributing fruits free to everyone & requesting seeds be preserved for future utilization." My late mother had a pigeonpea plant perrenial variety that had grown 6&1/2 feet tall and had a maximum diameter of foliage of about 7 feet and plant yielded pods throughout the year. We lost it after we shifted from that city. Such plants could be identified and its seeds could be used to yield perenial varieties. About other issues I shall give details after a few days. I once again sincerely thank you for your comments, With Sincere Regards, Hemant Wagh. waghhm May. 19, 2015 01:24 AM IST Member 6 | share Respected Sir, The Fruit trees Genomes adapting to changing conditions would in itself be a very desirable achievement. All our cultivars have been developed by selecting & propogating the natural finds. So those are in the final analysis the nature's gifts. The plucking and distributing the fruits would help identify the better ones which would deserve further attention. I wrote, "District Collector, local bodies, education officer, agriculture officer, horticulture officer, and forest officer to coordinate and monitor program. Students to be made part of monitoring system as well." This would help. The asexual propogation of cultivars reduces biodiversity. This mission would help increase biodiversity which could be fully utilzed by horticulturists. Thus it is complementary to and not a substitute for conventional horticulture. In fact it would help utilize natural processes better. Addition of special horticulture education in school curriculum should be optional & voluntary. The initiative for this aspect should better come from the horticulture-agriculture departments of universities & governments. The possibility of fruits of lower quality exists but it would be better to have those than not having at all. Additionally those fruits could be used as free raw material for processing by rural collectives helping reduce unemployment & costs of final products. Benefits should be passed on to common people. Once again I thank you for your comments,

tfb2015 Jun. 04, 2015 09:53 AM IST Member 11 | share I think this project is wonderful because trees are crucial both for mitigating and adaptation to climate change. If children learn to value seeds and grow trees we can expect a greener world. In my country Bolivia deforestation is rampant because people don´t value trees nor forests. Therefore teaching children saving seeds and growing trees can make a huge difference because they would love to see how the trees grow and in this way they would love nature. I speak by my own experience I always save seeds and grow them, sometimes I am successful sometimes I am not, but to observe how the trees are growing is like they were my children, and my understanding of nature grows with them. waghhm Jun. 04, 2015 04:20 PM IST Member 12 | share Respected tfb2015, I am very grateful to you for your comments. You have indeed summed up the essence of my proposal in just a few yet very touching sentences. Kindly accept my sincere regards.

Respected Katilyst, I thank you for your comment. Vegetable seeds are a bit difficult than fruit seeds to procure as they are mostly consumed with vegetables. Perennial fruit trees would be better long term strategy as yield, space required are different. Trees would help better to inculcate patience perseverance. The site choice could be helped by local authorities. Not alll roads have heavy traffic. Sincere Regards.

India's PM Mr. Modi recently announced Global/International Solar Alliance with HQ to be set up at Delhi. This is welcome initiative & countries in temperate climate zone should actively foster utilization of solar insolation by countries in & around the equator with higher quantities of sunlight reaching the earth surface.

 

 

 

He termed it as the 'manifestation of the collective wisdom of leaders of nations in the world'. Such initiatives are quite welcome and should be supported at all forums.

waghhm

Jan. 12, 2016
03:42 PM IST

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For collective wisdom of mankind to manifest the worldwide implementation of "Swami Vivekananda Fruit Trees Expansion Mission" would be helpful.